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Looks like deletes will now be legal again.

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I think the administration's focus is mostly on CO2 and the mandated rise in MPG...the diesel rules are aimed at particulate emissions (DPF filter) and NOX emissions (SCR and DEF system). And I think they were proposed to be even more stringent by 2025. I don't think you'd see complete elimination of the standards. Plus, they tend to leave existing stuff in place for vehicles already manufactured. So, if the vehicle came with this equipment, you'd still need it on there for states that do diesel emission testing. Trucks 3 years from now?...maybe they wont have DPF/SCR, but I doubt it. The DPF and EGR systems are the killer...I'd be real suprised if the need/mandate for particulate mitigation goes away in reality. Just speculating....
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"Off road" Diesel engines, like my generators at work and marine, heavy equipment, etc. are even starting to be required to meet tier 4 emissions, which is crazy. I've watched the industry change in the last 20+ years and I can tell you that I'll put my older CAT 3508s, my Cummins 855 and 5.9 engines up against any new one with emissions restrictions. When you have a hospital relying on these for power generation, I **** sure don't want a shutdown due to a clogged DPF or other emission issue.
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I thought that the regulations for life safety allowed them to bypass the shut downs/limp modes for these applications. I know that ambulance and fire safety vehicles have different programming that prevents this.

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I think the administration's focus is mostly on CO2 and the mandated rise in MPG...the diesel rules are aimed at particulate emissions (DPF filter) and NOX emissions (SCR and DEF system). And I think they were proposed to be even more stringent by 2025. I don't think you'd see complete elimination of the standards. Plus, they tend to leave existing stuff in place for vehicles already manufactured. So, if the vehicle came with this equipment, you'd still need it on there for states that do diesel emission testing. Trucks 3 years from now?...maybe they wont have DPF/SCR, but I doubt it. The DPF and EGR systems are the killer...I'd be real suprised if the need/mandate for particulate mitigation goes away in reality. Just speculating....


If the "maybe" happens and in three years trucks don't have DPF/SCR then it's likely a state would also drop their emissions testing if they see all vehicles moving forward won't be tested.


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[QUOTE=Demiles;312498]I thought that the regulations for life safety allowed them to bypass the shut downs/limp modes for these applications. I know that ambulance and fire safety vehicles have different programming that prevents this.

My old 855 mounted on the fire pump will run till it melts, power generation, especially paralled systems, have numerous safeties to limit damage to the entire system.

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