Do not buy the truck unless it is something you love. There hasn’t been a good economic argument for buying the XD since they were new.

 

I would argue that when these trucks hit rock bottom pricing of around 25k for a good example, they were worth it. A year or two ago, you could get a decent example with lowish miles for high 20's here in texas. Anything over high 30's for one of these is way to much, just so little support and to many problems to make it worth it.

 

I wouldn't buy unless you plan to delete immediately. The emissions garbage on these make them a ticking timebomb. I deleted at 70K and have been trouble free for about 60K since then.

 

@NavyCuda , just wondering if you have one or what your own personal experience has been? @JoeyS thanks, I wouldn't be against it since I'm in Texas, but I have also heard that stock vehicles have run over 100k miles without much issue?

 

I have a ‘19 with 96,000km that I bought brand new. I write delete tunes for them. I deleted at 52,000.

The only problem I’ve had is one wheel sensor stopped working.

 

Agree with NavyCuda and JoeyS. 20 min runs are not really enough to work the emissions system and get everything up to temps for a longer amount of time. You'll have a lot of regens, and actually, 20 minutes is not enough to complete one. Your last sentence is key. If you are lucky it is moot. If not, it is right on the money (literally).

 

Thanks - when I said 20 min, I'd say that's a "median" number. Every 3-4 weeks I do 2.5hr highways trips between cities, and pretty regularly on the weekends I'll have 1-2 hours of driving per day on highways. Actually I have an EV for the "stop and go" city driving.

 

Perfect, use the EV for the city driving. My own experience with my 2016 SL (bought new in November 2016) has been great...love the truck. Just 26,000 miles because I don't use it as a daily driver and try to use it as a truck to pull/haul or on highway. My wife loves traveling on the highway with it-very comfortable vehicle. But what NavyCuda said is valid. The gas version of the truck is probably a lot safer bet.

Reasons not to get it:

• Even if you delete (which is illegal, but I lived in Texas over 30 years in my younger days and there are probably no DPS troopers or local sheriffs that are going to pull you over if you are not rolling coal as more than a few of them probably have deleted diesels sitting in their driveways as well, right?!) that only solves/eliminates your potential failure modes with the DEF system /DPF system and associated sensors etc. An EGR delete is also a good idea and there is a member on here who sells kits.
• What else can go wrong--besides an unexplained broken crank or spun bearings. Turbo system problems. This engine runs a single (non-variable vane) turbocharger with a high and low pressure turbines controlled by an internal directional valve. It is elegant engineering, but the valve is subject to "sticky" action from the soot coking up the exhaust side a bit and the electronic valve controller likes to die on many folks. Deleting wont solve the RCN valve issue--the coking is on the exhaust side not the intake side, and the turbo does not see intake EGR anyway--it is injected at the intake air horn. The RCN valve controller is an easy replacement, but again, not cheap.
• Nissan is fast losing anybody who understands or even wants to work on these vehicles. Parts are expensive and sometimes hard to find and will get harder.

Deleting does eliminate a lot, but not all, of the potential issues. There is currently an active NHTSA investigation on the unexplained crankshaft failures. Don't buy it if you don't love it and are willing to take some economic risks.

and, do check out the Carfax as you said....

 

I have a 2016 with 143,000 miles. I bought and deleted it at 72,000 miles. I've have two sensors go out: the coolant resevoir, which I fixed for free in 5 seconds, and a turbo boost sensor, which my tuned ECM is ignoring. I had an exhaust leak take out a valve cover, bit I later found out that was from not making a support bracket when deleting my EGR with homemade parts, amd the vibrations eventually weakened a corner. If you do it yourself, you MUST support the up-pipe that feeds to the EGR cooler. I am not the only one to make this mistake.

They're fun trucks, but need to be deleted since the emissions parts on these fail frequently. The DEF system in particular is a very common pest. I'm looking at selling mine very soon, since it's 2wd and I keep getting it stuck every other time I go back home to Texas, or go do some outdoor shit here in North Carolina. I had wanted to convert it to 4wd, but I'm hardly home anymore, so that project would take absolutley forever to complete.

I'll miss the truck, because it's truely interesting and unique. It's treated me very well, and pulls great on hills with what loads I have given it. Overall, I'd reccomend it if you're willing to delete with a proper tune, and accept less than ideal parts availability as a trade-off of such a gas pump coversation piece.

 

 

Well, I say soon, but I still need to replace that boost sensor then post it for sale, but that'll be tricky while trying to buy another truck without going too long without one. If I do a simple trade-in, I'll get fucking robbed on it's value.

I hate car shopping so damn much, but I also hate getting stuck constantly. These things are too heavy to have 4wd. My Tacoma would skip through mud without issue. This pig will not. Lesson learned.

 

Well, I say soon, but I still need to replace that boost sensor then post it for sale, but that'll be tricky while trying to buy another truck without going too long without one. If I do a simple trade-in, I'll get fucking robbed on it's value.

I hate car shopping so damn much.

I’ve seen a lot on the old social media about an impending car market crash. I have feeling it won’t happen when the feds start to drop interest rate this summer, but you maybe able to pick something used up for a good price.

why not go to the old planet.gov and get an old m1113?

 

At least you would never have to worry about anyone running you off the road.

 

I have a 2016. I had it deleted at 40,000, & it now has 170,000, and it has had 5,000 lbs - 10,000 lbs behind it 75% of the time. The truck has been the best truck I have ever had & wish I could get a new one.

 

I have a 2016. I had it deleted at 40,000, & it now has 170,000, and it has had 5,000 lbs - 10,000 lbs behind it 75% of the time.

That's great! Just out of curiosity, can you share what month you truck was built in--early(ish) or late 2016? Both have had broken crankshafts, but it is a data point I've been curious about since reports on the 2016's (in particular) started coming in. Thanks!

 

buy it..thats a very good price...i do suggest a warranty..i bought mine thru CNA 70k miles or 7 yrs for 5k...it paid for itself already...but...80..it needs new brakes...and rotors turned..just replaced my pads..86k miles

 

My 17 XD has 55K mi and deleted at 30K and bas been a great truck. Tow a TT at 8500 LBS, always add good fuel additive every fill up and try to stay 2000K rpm or under and don't beat on the truck. So far so good.

 

When pulling weight it’s better for the engine to be above 2000rpm.

 

Don't be afraid to buy a Titan . I have owned 3 of them . None of mine have had any of the problems that people talk about . My biggest quiff with them is electronics . Sencors seem to not last long .

 

If you didn't live so far away I would sell you the one I have now . It's lower milage 38.010 . Not even broke in yet . $ 2400 in sencors last month . Spray in bed liner . New wheel and tires . $27.500 . It's in mint condition

 

WHY ARENT THESE BEING RECALLED

P2101 Electronic Throttle Control (Sensor Issue)

P0101 Mass Air Flow Circuit Range (Sensor Issue)

I had a 2017 Titan Platinum Reserve 4x4 and the exact same problem happened 2X 85000 miles (warranteed) and 106,000 $3000+ out of pocket. I got rid of that truck thinking maybe the 4x4 is a cause & bought another but 2WD Nope stupid me. My current Titan has 68,000 miles on it and a month after I brought it home same issue!!

NISSAN YOU ARE BETTER THAN THIS. ITS YOUR SIGNATURE TRUCK FOR GODS SAKE!! MAYBE YOU'RE NOT. TIME WILL TELL.

I WISH I COULD POST PICTURES FOR PROOF ANYONE WANT PROOF REPLY WITH EMAIL

 

WHY ARENT THESE BEING RECALLED

P2101 Electronic Throttle Control (Sensor Issue)

P0101 Mass Air Flow Circuit Range (Sensor Issue)

I had a 2017 Titan Platinum Reserve 4x4 and the exact same problem happened 2X 85000 miles (warranteed) and 106,000 $3000+ out of pocket. I got rid of that truck thinking maybe the 4x4 is a cause & bought another but 2WD Nope stupid me. My current Titan has 68,000 miles on it and a month after I brought it home same issue!!

NISSAN YOU ARE BETTER THAN THIS. ITS YOUR SIGNATURE TRUCK FOR GODS SAKE!! MAYBE YOU'RE NOT. TIME WILL TELL.

I WISH I COULD POST PICTURES FOR PROOF ANYONE WANT PROOF REPLY WITH EMAIL

 

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