[Gymkata]

Wow, didn't realize my "official" weight was so low. 1488 lbs, what a joke. With my truck weighing about 7250, in the pic I have a combined weight of occupants and cargo of approx 3300 lbs...that was pushing the limits but the truck still handled well enough.

 

[XDHunter]

I'm not knocking your truck but wow that's pretty low! What model and configuration is yours?

16 platinum dsl 4x4, I'm not sure why they all vary so much but whatever. I'll load it with whatever whenever. I've had 50 boxes of hardwood flooring in it at 43lbs each plus myself at 300 and didn't know it was back there,,,til I had to carry them all in the house....

 

[XDHunter]

I wonder if most of the people installing aftermarket rims realize that most of them are only rated at 2k each which is all but the truck empty. Nissan has my registered empty weight at 7307 which in pa is a class 3 so my tags at 160 bucks a year.. my math is 8950-7307=1643. But I also have never weighed my truck empty and that would be the number I would subtract from 8950 to get a real payload number

 

[fshn16]

Actually the payload is very specific to each truck. The only way to get this number is either from the door sticker or a CAT scale. Towing and hitch weight are readily available. I have been thinking about trading my 5.6 for a 5.0 and have noticed big differences in payload with very little differences in truck configuration. This thread will help people get an idea of payload without having to go to the lot and look at each truck.

Would have never known and don't know how they all differ with same stock tires. Trk I have is 1653.
Changing to different tires change this number? Or if not what determines this number because these numbers aren't same but are all scrambled across the board .

 

[tcpip95]

When you went to the cat scale, did you have your rv with you? Are they patient for folks that have never done it before? Is there a process for doing this?

No. I took the truck one day shortly after I got it and weighed it with full diesel & DEF. I then went back and weighed the boat one day, and the trailer the next. Both times I ensured I had full fuel & DEF.

I went out to CAT's website and watched the videos. Very simple process, and worked exactly the same at numerous CAT scales.

 

[Verc1320]

17 Pro4X Gas Crew Cab - Utility and Audio Package Only, no convenience or luxury packages

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I've maxed it out with 3,000 lbs. in it so far, handled it like a champ. Don't plan on stressing it again like that though, or I hope not to at least.

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[fastalkintn]

Would have never known and don't know how they all differ with same stock tires. Trk I have is 1653.
Changing to different tires change this number? Or if not what determines this number because these numbers aren't same but are all scrambled across the board .

I am no expert but I really don't think changing the tires will increase this number, however the wrong tire could definitely decrease it. It is calculated using many different factors. Adding things to the truck might increase "actual capability" but I don't think you can overcome the legality of what Nissan says is max payload. Not sure if this makes sense or not.

 

[tcpip95]

I am no expert but I really don't think changing the tires will increase this number, however the wrong tire could definitely decrease it. It is calculated using many different factors. Adding things to the truck might increase "actual capability" but I don't think you can overcome the legality of what Nissan says is max payload. Not sure if this makes sense or not.

You are correct; changing the tire will not increase it 1 lb. However, changing them could MOST DEFINITELY decrease it.

 

[fshn16]

If a particular model is manufactured with same frame, suspension and same everything else resulting with similar trk weight, then no logical reason for payload to not relatively be the same. The various packages offered can't possibly affect the payloads improvement or otherwise. This just doesn't sound right, yet diverse numbers exist as shown here. Go figure.

 

[tcpip95]

If a particular model is manufactured with same frame, suspension and same everything else resulting with similar trk weight, then no logical reason for payload to not relatively be the same. The various packages offered can't possibly affect the payloads improvement or otherwise. This just doesn't sound right, yet diverse numbers exist as shown here. Go figure.

I'm guessing that each truck is weighed as it comes off the line, and a sticker gets printed and slapped on it as it leaves the factory. That's the only thing that makes sense - not that that process makes sense.

 

[Gymkata]

If a particular model is manufactured with same frame, suspension and same everything else resulting with similar trk weight, then no logical reason for payload to not relatively be the same. The various packages offered can't possibly affect the payloads improvement or otherwise. This just doesn't sound right, yet diverse numbers exist as shown here. Go figure.

I thought they just took the 8990 lb GVWR and subtracted the curb weight of each model with variances occurring based on trim and package weight differences. Obviously because the diesel engine weighs so much, diesel models magically have much lower "rated" bed weight capacities. With regards to the rated weight capacity, these trucks are very underrated. I've seen other trucks struggle when loaded to their rated capacity. Mine is technically rated at 1488 lbs...I can barely tell it's back there with that little of weight.

I have a 2016 Titan XD Pro4X Cummins with all three packages. The stated curb weight for a 2016 Titan XD Pro4X Cummins is 7,257 lbs, which would mean a 1733 lb weight capacity...thats 245 lbs more than the sticker on the side of my door. While my Pro4X is loaded, I wouldn't image those extra options add 245 lbs to the truck. So it is definitely a little confusing how they come up with the numbers on the door sticker...which again are a joke.

Maybe it's something ridiculous like the curb weight for our trucks in the manual doesn't include a full tank of fuel and they later subtract the weight of a full tank from the rated capacity. ??? 26 gallons of diesel weigh somewhere between 180-185 lbs. That eats up a big chunk of the phantom 245 lb capacity loss. lol

 

[XDHunter]

I can tell you after driving my 16 platinum back to back with a 16 pro 4x I can definitely feel the weight difference. Mine is way heavier and for some reason I have alot more room between me and the dash/steering wheel. Not sure what all the differences are but they are there

 

[Shane06fl]

The rated payload is always the down fall of 1/2 ton trucks. Nissan underrated the first generation and the new XD. I suspect they under rated the XD to keep it out of the 3/4 ton class. Marketing at its best.

Remember when GM built 1500HD? Marketing for a segment buyer.

 

[TXCummin]

SV Crew Cab Diesel

Texas!

 

[Gymkata]

Thenrated payload is always the down fall of 1/2 tons trucks. Nissan underrated the first generation and the new XD. I suspect they under rated the XD to keep it out of the 3/4 ton class. Marketing at its best.

Remember when GM built 1500HD? Marketing for a segment buyer.

Then there was the Dodge Ram 1500 mega cab...it was essentially the 2500 with slightly lighter spring rates.

 

[Bikerndiver]

I have no payload capacity left....but PLENTY of power!

 

[mbcabinetmaker]

I have no payload capacity left....but PLENTY of power!

Nice Rig!!!:wink2:

 

[zjbowman]

IMO the GVW is set where it is to keep it under the next tier which would cost people more money in licensing fees, and require hardware upgrades. When i purchased my 2017 F250, the only real difference between it and the 350 were the springs, and truck rating. My gas XD is 8800, same as my F250 was. The XD tows better IMO, but squatted worse before airbags (it's the Pro4x) Our XDs are b2 (3/4 ton) due to weight alone, even if they aren't designed or designated as such. Although most XD gas models would technically qualify for 1 ton status according to payload capacity, in some states this would cost a lot more for fees, and insurance. Not to mention we also would require 8 lug axles, etc.etc. Not saying the XDs can compete with a modern 1 ton truck, just that Nissan is playing in a weird heavy half space and most likely under rates their trucks for some of these reasons. Those of us who know these trucks, tend to like this setup... myself included.

Some interesting differences from the regular Titan I learned recently....

Different:
Steering system
Front suspension
Axles front
Axle rear
Brakes
Frame
Wheel Stud Size (wheels not interchangeable)
Cooling system (gas motor)
Intake system (gas motor)
transmission tuning

There may be more, so feel free to elaborate.

 

[Fordtonissan?]

You are correct; changing the tire will not increase it 1 lb. However, changing them could MOST DEFINITELY decrease it.

1. 2259 lbs. I changed my 17" wheels/tires to the SL/PR 20" 265 60 20 E tires. I'm hoping this did not lower my payload. The tires are actually rated for the exact 3195 lbs as the 17" Firestones were. It took me a while to find a used one with a good payload, the diesels were ruled out instantly bc of the ultra low payload. Really unfortunate because I wanted a diesel but by the time my travel trailer tongue weight, family of 5, 2 dogs, kids stuff in the bed, cooler, etc I'm already pushing 1800 lbs. I would love to know the true actual legality regarding loading your truck over the rating. I've read insurance can deny your claim and that alone made me focus on the payload.